Os verbos ser e estar son de influencia celta?

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Desta vez non falo eu, senón en Quora. A pregunta é:

Why does the Portuguese language have two verbs for being (ser and estar) if there is just one in most of the romance languages (e.g., French and Italian)?

Ygor Coelho

Ygor Coelho, Language and linguistics enthusiast.

Answered Nov 19, 2018

Well, there is no why, it just happened, and not just in Portuguese. Basically all Iberian Romance and some other Romance languages make the same distinction, too. Italian actually also uses “stare", but it is more like “to stay” (the original meaning of the verb) than “to be at this moment, circumstantially”. There is no “why”, but the “how" can be explained and is traced back to a time when Portuguese language did not even exist. In some Late Latin/Early Romance dialects “to stay” started to be used instead of “to be” when a transient state or quality was implied by the speaker. And that trend stuck in some places and not in others.

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Eoin Ó Murchú

Eoin Ó Murchú

Dec 3, 2018 · 11 upvotes including Ygor Coelho

The Celtic languages also have two verbs to be, perhaps that was an influence. In Irish the main verb is TÁ, which is cognate with estar and originally stands. Irish also a habitual verb bíonn (in English he does be) and a copula to define in straight terms: is fear é. He is a man. You can’t say tá sé fear, and must use the copula instead.

Ygor Coelho

Ygor Coelho

Original Author · Dec 3, 2018 · 3 upvotes

Very interesting! That would make sense, but then I wonder how we could explain, if underlying Celtic influence was a the root of these two copula vebs, the fact that the languages born in Gaul itself lack this feature, and North Italian dialects (where Celtic was also spoken) also lack it, but South Italian dialects have the same distinction (and Celtic was never spoken there). It is intriguing. Maybe it has something to do with areal features that influenced all the Atlantic coast from Galicia to Ireland. We know there had been mutual influences and contacts since the Megalithic era in that region.

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